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Talking with Angels

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Talking with Angels

Hanna Dallos

Joseph Kreutzer

Gitta Mallasz
  Gitta Mallasz’ artworks
  Gitta Mallasz’ righteous
Lili Strausz

the witnesses



Gitta Mallasz (married name Walder) was born on June 21, 1907 in Ljubjana (Slovenia) and died on May 25, 1992, in Tartaras (Ampuis, Rhone, France). She was one of the recipients of the extraordinary spiritual instructions which she divulged in the book Talking with Angels.


Margit Eugenia (Gitta) Mallasz was born in 1907 in an Austro-Hungarian family. Her father was an officer in the Hungarian army, her mother was Austrian. In her adolescence in Hungary she became friends with Hanna Dallos at the Academy of Graphic Arts. She was a talented swimmer and in the late twenties, became national backstroke champion. She also made the acquaintance of Lili Strausz, a professor of calisthenics who was also a massage therapist. Soon Gitta resumed working in graphic art and joined Hanna in the atelier which Hanna ran with her husband Joseph Kreutzer. Once anti-Semitism gained political power in Budapest, the aristocratic Gitta took over the commercial management of the atelier from Hanna and Joseph, who were Jewish just like Lili.

Gitta Mallasz
  Gitta Mallasz 

Thus was born the quartet of young people in search of the meaning of life and the spiritual. Then the Second World War broke out. The atmosphere became oppressive and alarming. Hanna and Joseph rented a small house in the outskirts of Budapest and reduced their activities to the absolute essentials. Gitta and Lili joined them. One day when Gitta shared her thoughts with Hanna, Hanna revealed that it wasn’t her any more who was speaking. The 25th of June, 1943, was the beginning of the great adventure of  Talking with Angels - seventeen months of spiritual instructions received and transmitted by Hanna, which ended up in an old college building transformed into a workshop for manufacturing military uniforms. The clandestine purpose was trying to save a hundred Jews. Gitta accepted the management of it in order to save her friends. But, in 1944, the Nazi vice tightened. Joseph was deported on the 3rd of June, Hanna and Lili were taken to Ravensbrück on the 2nd of December. They never returned; Gitta found herself alone in possession of the black covered notebooks containing the transcripts of the Dialogues.

In Hungary, after the Nazi terror, came the Soviet oppression. Gitta became dress and stage designer and spokesperson for the State Folk Assembly of Rábai Miklós. In those years, in spite of her professional success, Gitta said that she felt like a living dead. In 1960, she “chose freedom” and settled in France. To save her family from persecution, she contracted a marriage of convenience with Laci Walder which later turned into a love-match. He was a Jewish communist, veteran of the International Brigades. With her husband, Helen Boyer, and several friends she set herself the task to translate the notebooks into French. The publication was delayed. Eventually, the writer Claude Mettra, producer at the French public radio station France-Culture interviewed Gitta Mallasz about her spiritual adventure in his weekly program on March 22, 1976. The impact was enormous. Shortly thereafter, the text was published by Aubier. In his Radioscopie program of March 10, 1977, Jacques Chancel introduced the work to the general public.

The years passed by and Laci Walder died in 1982. Gitta Mallasz flatly refused to become a guru despite public pressure. But an invitation to a conference of the Zurich C. G. Jung Institute in June 1983 was an important turning point. From then on Gitta Mallasz dedicated the rest of her life to commenting on Talking with Angels, and guarding against false interpretations be it in conferences or in books. In 1988, in a severe accident she broke both her wrists. She gave up her little house in the Périgord and moved to live in Tartaras in the vineyard region of Côte Rôtie in the vicinity of her close friends Bernard and Patricia Montaud. Gitta Mallasz 1983
  Gitta Mallasz in 1983      (Photo R. Hinshaw)

From 1985 onwards, Bernard had been organizing her conferences. She spent her last years there peacefully, writing her last books, joyfully releasing the angel’s teachings.

She died on May 25, 1992. Her ashes were dispersed over the river Rhône. Like her friends she won’t have a grave. 

Faire-part : j'ai quitté mon corps, cet outil précieux qui m'a été donné pour accomplir ma tâche sur terre. Il a été trop usé par le temps. Je sais qu'un autre outil me sera donné, plus approprié pour une nouvelle tâche. Toi aussi tu as une tâche unique. Il est bénéfique de bien l'accomplir aussi longtemps que ce rare don du Ciel - ton corps terrestre - est utilisable. Sinon, tu as vécu en vain. Gitta Mallasz
„ I write from the Other Shore! God be with
   you!”. Gitta

My living body I left
this precious tool which I received
to fulfill my task on earth.
It was much used in the course of time.
I know that another tool will be given to me
which will serve better for a new mission.

You, too, you have a unique mission.

It is beneficial that you fulfill it well
as long as this precious gift of Heaven
– your earthly body –
   is there to be used.
Otherwise your life was in vain.



- Talking with angels. Daimon Verlag, Einsiedeln, Switzerland.
Gitta Mallasz, from whom the publication of the book became reality, insisted that she was only a scribe. She was helpful in all details, contributed to the translation, she originated the idea of writing the book and worked tirelessly on it’s distribution, but her name does not appear as an author. 

- with Françoise Maupin, Les Dialogues tels que je les ai vécus (The Dialogues as I lived them), Aubier, Paris, 1984
- with Roger Bret, Les Dialogues, ou l'enfant né sans parents (The Dialogues, or the child born without parents), Aubier, Paris, 1986
- with Dominique Raoul-Duval, Les Dialogues, ou le saut dans l'inconnu (The Dialogues, or leap into the unknown.), Aubier, Paris, 1988
- with Dominique Raoul-Duval, Petits Dialogues d'hier et d'aujourd'hui (Short Dialogues yesterday and today), Aubier, Paris, 1991
- conversations with Bernard et Patricia Montaud, Quand l'ange s'en mêle, (When the Angel interferes), Dervy, Paris, 1990


- Patrice Van Eersel, La source blanche (The white well), Grasset, Paris, 1996
- Bernard Montaud, Patricia Montaud, et Lydia Müller, La vie et la mort de Gitta Mallasz, (The life and the death of Gitta Mallasz), Dervy, Paris, 2001. This book unites in one volume : Quand l’ange s'en mêle, (When the Angel interferes), Le Testament de l’ange, les derniers jours de Gitta Mallasz (The Angel’s Testament: the Last days of Gitta Mallasz) and a a few unpublished texts by  Gitta Mallasz).

Translated from French by Dr Vera Dallos-Pinter

Photo album
Album photo familial Mallasz

Gitta Mallasz Childhood and Youth (family album) 
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